IT vacancies lacking descriptions: recruiter

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More precise job descriptions would benefit industry
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Local IT firms could get better productivity out of new employees if they improved on their position descriptions and induction processes, says a local IT recruitment company.

Nine of 10 vacancy requirements that come to Recruit IT don’t actually have a job description, says Wellington-based John Wyatt, director of Recruit IT. In many cases, information about the position is contained in less than 10 words, he says.

This isn’t so much of a problem to the recruitment company, which often knows its clients well enough to be able to identify the technical and “softer” skills required for the role. But for candidates, detailed job descriptions would be beneficial, says Wyatt.

A job description shows a good element of forward planning, he says. It means that an organisation has sat down and determined what its needs are going forward and, based on that, created a position description.

“To a candidate, that markets the organisation well,” he says.

A job description can also be used as a competitive advantage. If a candidate is looking at several positions, they may be more likely to go for a role where they know what they are in for. Employers stand to gain from this from a productivity point-of-view as well, he says.

“If an employee knows where they are going, what they are doing and what their employer expectations are from day one, then it could easily add 10 percent to their overall productivity rate,” Wyatt says.

In general, the IT industry is more reactive than proactive when it comes to recruiting staff. IT organisations often react to a need as opposed to forecasting, he says.

The induction process is also an area where local organisations could also improve. Particularly in the developer environment, the "here is your chair and away you go" mentality is common, he says. The process when a new employee comes onboard is often very similar to bringing in a contractor — there is a need for a solution and the company simply brings someone in who can build that solution.

While the technical requirements are often there, for example “we need a .NET developer”, the softer components of the role, information about the company and the environment the candidate will be working in are generally absent, he says.

A reason for this could be that many people in leadership roles today have come from a technical background. where detailed job descriptions have not been seen as important.
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Any comments from ITCRA? So, ITCRA - what do you think of the attitude of some of the people working in the industry you represent?

I think you might want to be running a few refresher courses.
Posted by Anonymous at 16:44:41 on July 2, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? have a look who belongs to ITCRA bright eyes, then have a look at all the recruiters out there - not a whole lot of coverage is there now sparky....but I am sure if you look hard enough , someone will hold your hand and say someone is just being nasty. No refreshers needed - just people who are used to being mollycoddled to HTFU - get used tio the fact your attitude will determine how you are treated by recruiters - if you are a knob or arrogant or just generally someone recruiters don't like, I am sure there is a tankful of whinging you have stored up.......and as for ITCRA, you may want to ask a few of the people on there why there have been no meetings in NZ for over 18 months and why ITCRA has not sent a representative here for at least 12mths, .......go on , dare you, put yourself out there and ask some hard questions - keen to hear what you find out. As has been said before - don't apply to agency roles if you are unhappy with anything that is being said about what goes on or how agencies operate - simple simple simple
Posted by So, ITCRA - what do you think of the attitude of some of the people working in the industry you represent? at 19:44:10 on July 4, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? Yeah right, just like if we don't like Real Estate Agents, we shouldn't buy houses, or if we don't like Petrol Cartels, we shouldn't drive. Get real. The only reason candidates put up with the crap from agencies is that people need a job to put food on the table, and unfortunately, the employers in this country seem to have the delusion that only agencies can deliver quality candidates. I don't bother to apply for jobs which don't advertise the salary and location or other important details. Not entirely my loss, because I am a specialist and not desperate to find a job, so I can pick and choose. Only a couple of good agents have my details and they contact me regularly for any interesting roles they come across (and I have also recommended them some candidates who they have successfully recruited). So it pays to be a good agent, arrogance will get you nowhere.
Posted by Realistic at 9:03:53 on July 5, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? So true. How many times did you see a job advertised which is you to the tee, just to never get past the agencies? I absolute hate bee=ing vetted by someone who have NO clue to what my expertise comprises of.

My motto, I only apply for non-agency advertised roles, and only if they give an indication to what the role pays. I hate time-wasters who mess with my precious time with interviews because they are not upfront with what the role offers.

It's similar to car dealers not posting the sale price, I don't buy there.

IT techos are logical and direct people, we don't play your boardroom pin-the-donkey games. Learn from it or go away...
Posted by Anon Coward at 16:44:54 on July 9, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? Actually , it isn't delusional - they have all tried going directly, but are gobsmacked by the amount ( 50-60 cv's plus ) and poor quality ( grads applying for senior PM roles ) and then they get candidates calling them incessantly, carving into their day. Clients would gladly go to market directly if they could get the result they wanted......Apologies if honesty is being interpreted as arrogance - but - try sending this to your recruiters and ask them for their honest opinion on what is being said in this thread and how close to the truth it is
Posted by Yeah right, just like if we don't like Real Estate Agents at 10:29:09 on July 5, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? Yeah, nice. Looks like the arrogant knobs are being snapped up by the recruiters to become recruiters.
Posted by Anonymous at 22:06:15 on July 4, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? Hey, feel free to jump in and show us how it is done - a whole industry would be keen to get your thoughts ( and I am not being factitious either - recruiters are genuinely interested to hear what new people to the industry think )

or

scuttle back into your hold
Posted by Yeah, nice. Looks like the arrogant knobs are being snapped up by the recruiters to become recruiters. at 10:47:22 on July 5, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? ...genuinely interested if you like what people are saying, otherwise you'll call them whiners, tell them to harden up and bugger off. Nice.
Posted by Anonymous at 10:53:58 on July 5, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? Hey, if they are in the trenches with first hand experience, all ears - if they are on the sideline having never played the game.........bit like parents on the sideline yelling at Little Johnny, but have never laced a boot on in their life.....
Posted by ...genuinely interested if you like what people are saying, otherwise you'll call them whiners, at 11:01:02 on July 5, 2010

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Any comments from ITCRA? Just out of interest, is there a code of practice (other than the ITCRA one) that NZ recruitment firms can sign up to?

And is there an industry body in NZ that is actually active (sounds like ITCRA isn't), and that has the respect of the firms it is supposed to represent (again, sounds like ITCRA isn't)?
Posted by Anonymous at 11:13:13 on July 5, 2010

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