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It's the future, but is overhyped and vendor-driven, ZendCon attendees say
By Paul Krill | San Francisco | Monday, 8 November, 2010 | 2 Comments
While technology vendors continue to pound home the message of cloud computing, PHP developers Tuesday viewed the concept as overhyped and were not in agreement on its benefits.
Developers at the ZendCon 2010 PHP conference in Santa, Clara, Calif. heard Zend Technologies CEO Andi Gutmans tout the company's cloud computing plans, which involve developing Zend PHP Cloud Platform. During his presentation, however, developers appeared mostly underwhelmed when Gutmans asked if cloud computing was game-changing or just hype. Afterward, developers gave cloud computing mixed reviews.
"I guess I have a feeling that 10, 15 years from now, maybe we'll all be using this stuff, but right now, it's entirely pushed by vendors," said Phillip Winn, back-end developer for games builder Tapulous.
"I don't see value in it," Winn said. "I don't have a strong opinion. I don't care. It doesn't affect me."
Winn recalled a former employer who thought cloud computing could be used to cut costs and reduce staff levels. "Economically, it ended up not making any sense for them," said Winn.
Cloud computing, said attendee Chuck Hudson, founder of Aduci, a consulting firm, has been the subject of some hype. "But there's definitely some opportunity there to leverage cloud computing," with developers able to rapidly develop systems and for enterprises to save on infrastructure and maintenance costs, Hudson said.
Rather than view cloud computing as a potential job-killer, Hudson sees it as a chance for IT persons to expand horizons. "I think it's more an opportunity for people in their current roles to learn the new technology and apply it. So I think it's just retooling your toolset."
Cloud computing, said Joseph Munowenyu, computer programmer at Valley City State University, in North Dakota, is "where everything is headed." At consulting firm Atos Origin, the company does not yet use cloud computing, said Atos developer Chris Campbell. "It's something we've been looking at." But he also saw "an element of hype" to the concept.
After his presentation, Gutmans acknowledged people could be "a bit tired of hearing about [cloud computing] because there's so much talk about it." But customers are nonetheless interested in leveraging its benefits, Gutmans said. Zend Cloud Platform will feature portable and native cloud services, application platform monitoring, cluster management, application deployment, configuration management, and IDE integration.
Within the same building complex as ZendCon, attendees at the Cloud Computing Conference & Expo conference Tuesday were more upbeat about cloud computing, as would be expected.
"We're definitely interested in cloud computing and right now, I'm on a research project where we're actually using the Amazon Web Services [cloud] environment to do all of our research work," said Jim Cannaliato, vice president of technology at SAIC.
Another attendee noted his company's growing use of cloud computing. "We've got some bits and pieces, so we're not fully cloud-enabled, but that's the direction we're heading," said Sadri Behbahany, senior director of IT at Wacom, which makes tablet input devices.
Comments
Hype or late reaction ?
I attended ZendCon 2010 as well and I do believe the cloud is something that needs to be sold as a "new" way of doing things. But cloud computing is something we're already involved in for years now since we (PHP developers) are building the apps that make the "cloud" now so appealing to commercialize.
I think the biggest issue amongst most attendees was not the fact that Zend now offers solutions for the cloud, but more the fact that Andi was preaching to the choir. Too much cloud.
For us PHP developers, we don't care where our apps go (bare metal, cloud, embedded devices) as long as it's PHP.
Posted by Michelangelo van Dam at 22:18:18 on November 8, 2010
I think the biggest issue amongst most attendees was not the fact that Zend now offers solutions for the cloud, but more the fact that Andi was preaching to the choir. Too much cloud.
For us PHP developers, we don't care where our apps go (bare metal, cloud, embedded devices) as long as it's PHP.
Posted by Michelangelo van Dam at 22:18:18 on November 8, 2010
Not for me for now
Cloud computing is hype, but it does offer more efficiency of cost. Hosting companies at the moment rely on customers paying for what they don't use. Cloud computing is designed to only charge the customer for exactly how much they use.
The problem I have with them though is their web servers you can use cloud servers with are so expensive. With our upcoming file hosting site OMGupload.com (which also uses the cloud billing structure) it doesn't make sense to use cloud servers.
Posted by peter at 21:43:14 on November 8, 2010
The problem I have with them though is their web servers you can use cloud servers with are so expensive. With our upcoming file hosting site OMGupload.com (which also uses the cloud billing structure) it doesn't make sense to use cloud servers.
Posted by peter at 21:43:14 on November 8, 2010





