NZOSS expects powerful opposition to patent reform

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Two law firms challenge Commerce Select Committee's recommendation to exclude software from patent protection
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The New Zealand Open Source Society is expecting powerful interests to bring pressure on the government to reverse plans to exclude software from patent protection in New Zealand.

In a post on the NZOSS website yesterday, vice president Peter Harrison applauded the Commerce Select Committee's recommendation to exclude software from patent protection and responded to critics of the proposal.

"In all honesty it was very unexpected that we would be able to change the direction of this legislation. That we have put forward a argument that was sufficiently compelling means our hard work over the last several years has indeed born fruit," Harrison says.

"Of course we are not naive. This is certainly not the end of the line; the Government must adopt the report of the Commerce Committee and pass the legislation. We sincerely hope that the Government will adopt the careful deliberations of the Commerce Committee and carry forward the legislation as proposed by the Commerce Committee. There are many powerful interests who will be very upset by this decision, and no doubt they will bring every influence they have to bear on changing this decision."

Harrison then responds to two law firms who have been critical of patent exclusion on their websites.

Ken Moon, of intellectual property specialist AJ Park, criticised the recommendation on a number of grounds, saying the requirements for inventiveness under patent law are the same as for any other invention. He also noted issues with embedded software and that New Zealand's position appears to be diverging from Australia's, despite attempts to harmonise business between the two countries.

A trio of Baldwins solicitors also weighed in against the proposal.

"It is not clear why the Committee gave the open source Community submissions such weight," they write. "To argue that software is unpatentable because it builds on existing software seems unusual given nearly every invention builds on what others did before.  As many innovators realise, one object of the patent system is to promote publishing of inventions.   Then others have the opportunity to learn and develop from those inventions and improve our standard of living."  

In response, Harrison says many members who also develop proprietary software support the exclusion and patents are harmful to all software development houses.

"The ways in which software patents can stifle innovation was given specific treatment in our submission. Our first example was a comparison to books which no doubt can be creative and innovative, but are not covered in patent law. Software is a form of creative expression in almost every way analogous to writing a book. Our second example was a description of how patents have been used to reinforce monopolies and protect the revenue streams of large multinationals, but have failed to provide revenue to New Zealand software companies," he writes.

On the divergence from Australia, Harrison points out that Europe has taken the same stance as New Zealand.

"Therefore we are in fact implementing a patent approach that is well supported by some of our largest trading partners. It is indeed unfortunate that Australia implemented changes to it's patent law as a consequence of the US Free Trade Agreement, as it has seen no benefit from that agreement.

"It would tend to indicate that changing our patent law to benefit US multinationals should at least wait until we have a solid Free Trade Agreement with the US Administration that delivers something of real bebefit to us, such as to cut subsidies to its dairy farmers and allow us to compete on a equal basis. There is little benefit to sacrificing any meager leverage we may have simply to get to the negotiation table."

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Same as Pharmaceuticals 15 year patent How about a middle of the road approach to this:
You dream it up, you invest your time in building it, you get 15 years to make as much money off it - regain your investment and have 15 years of respect of your creation before 'generics' can be produced by copy catting your software with a face lift.

If not imagine your the inventor and invester and a junior developer runs off with the software and makes it their own...
Posted by Anonymous at 17:56:30 on April 11, 2010

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Same as Pharmaceuticals 15 year patent Um, how does software patents protect you from your scenario? How about this for a scenario - your junior developer runs off with your software (for which you've paid, what, $100k for a patent application, in what, one or two jurisdictions)... and gives it to a multinational corporate. What're you going to do. Sue them? Yeah right. Stop dreaming, and write better software faster than your competitors. If you can't do it, you're in the wrong business. Resting on laurels and expecting to get paid for it is crybaby wimp stuff. How many other industries have that warped sense of entitlement.


Posted by Dave Lane at 23:04:56 on April 12, 2010

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Software is just an algorithm In any event, a software program is indistinguishable from a mathematical algorithm (thank you Mr Turning) and, as I understand it, mathematical algorithms are not patentable. The allowing of software patenting in the first place was a colossal mistake.

I certainly don't want to have to consult a patent lawyer every time I write a macro in a spreadsheet.
Posted by Vik Olliver, Diamond Age Solutions Ltd. at 10:50:24 on April 10, 2010

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Software is just an algorithm Exactly right Vic.
Question, Why can (clever) software authors not create an equally clever licensing/encryption technique to ensure their "intellectual property" is not stolen or even used without having first been legitimately purchased? Is it because after creating the latest wizzy package they cannot be bothered? Another thing, they seem very keen to have the customer pay over and over each time the hardware manufacturers change their hardware requiring upgraded software.
Posted by Bart Hanson at 11:19:47 on April 12, 2010

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There is no "embedded software" Hi,

To reply to the following patent attorneys here:

http://www.ajpark.com/articles/2010/04/computer_software_not_patentable.php


There is no "embedded software".

This is a backdoor term for trying to make software patentable when it runs on a computer, which all software does.
Posted by lownight at 1:09:26 on April 10, 2010

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Software Is Already Copyrightable, Doesn't Need Patentability Why should software need TWO forms of legal protection-both copyrights and patents-when everything else has to make do with one?
Posted by Lawrence D'Oliveiro at 23:01:15 on April 9, 2010

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Copyrightable protects number of licenses not content Does copyright just protect the number of times you can use the software, ie one license for one user and not to load it up on 10 computers.

It doesn't protect someone buying the software and working out how it works and making a small change and sell it as their own after someone else did all the hard work that they copied.
Posted by Anonymous at 17:45:17 on April 11, 2010

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Solicitors' position not neutral I agree with the argument that building on other inventions doesn't preclude patentability. There are many other arguments such as all software is in fact a combination of algorithms (math) or the absurd position in the US that just dreaming up an idea that could be potentially expressed in software is somehow patentable.

However, solicitors can hardly be considered an objective source for comment. They stand to gain financially from having software patents - look at all the software patent litigation "bonanza" in the US.
Posted by What Ever at 18:33:25 on April 9, 2010

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How much does a patent cost in the US? One could be cynical and assume that america aims to profit from the myriad of patents and patenet searches that they can charge for...
Posted by Anonymous at 17:47:20 on April 11, 2010

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My favourite line from the NZOSS article This is my favourite part of the NZOSS article:

"We can only suggest that the reason the Committee gave the multiple submissions supporting the exclusion of software such weight was the compelling argument and sincere belief that the interests of all New Zealand should come before that of large multinational corporations."

It shows up the lawyer's for what they are.
Posted by Anonymous at 18:19:49 on April 9, 2010

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