Chorus misses Sept deadline for UFB cost resolution
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TUANZ CEO Paul Brislen says the cost of non-standard builds should be absorbed by Chorus
By Sim Ahmed | Auckland | Monday, 8 October, 2012 | 12 Comments
Chorus, which is building around 70 percent of the government’s $1.35 billion Ultra Fast Broadband network, has failed to release its cost strategy for non-standard UFB installations by September as it earlier indicated.
Chorus is still in discussions with the industry and “working through it”, spokesperson Robin Kelly told Computerworld as it went to press.
Crown Fibre Holdings’ (CFH) contract with Chorus only covers the cost of fibre installs up to 15 metres from the kerb to the home or business. This differs to contracts with Local Fibre Companies (LFC) Northpower, Ultra Fast Fibre, and Enable where the minimum is 30 metres.
This raises the question of who pays for installs that fall outside of the minimum; the government, Chorus, Retail Service Providers (RSP), or consumers.
TUANZ CEO Paul Brislen says the price of non-standard builds should be absorbed by Chorus. Any attempts to charge it to customers would put another barrier to the adoption of the technology, and charging the RSPs would be charging customers by proxy as the carriers would recoup costs by increasing their prices.
Telecom and Vodafone have yet to release any UFB pricing details, lagging behind smaller players like Orcon and Slingshot.
Last month Telecom CEO Simon Moutter told Computerworld that the large upfront costs for a non-standard install would make it a “tough sell” to consumers. His counterpart at Vodafone, Russell Stanners, says connecting to fibre has been a poor experience for customers.
Brislen says without clarification of who pays for the costs it would be difficult for the larger RSPs to release their pricing.
“There’s a big disconnect between Chorus, Crown Fibre Holdings, and the rest of us,” says Brislen. “There’s a lack of understanding how important this issue is to the RSPs at a ministerial level.”
Brislen says the lack of clarity around who pays for the non-standard installs is due to shortcomings with CFH’s contract with Chorus.
“They should have negotiated a better contract,” says Brislen.
“Chorus has a lot of incentive not to roll this thing out. They have all the copper in the ground and want to get full use out of its life.” says Brislen, who says he wants the government to release more detail about its contract with Chorus.
Rohan MacMahon, strategy director at CFH, says the government discussions are ongoing.
“Minister Adams has indicated that the government appreciates the importance of resolving this issue as quickly as possible,” says MacMahon
As for claims that CFH’s contract with Chorus was poorly negotiated, MacMahon says aspects of the contract are favourable to consumers for such “complex matters” as that involved in the UFB.
Comments
Backhanders ...
This would not have happened on Cunliffe's watch.
Posted by Anonymous at 8:21:54 on October 10, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 8:21:54 on October 10, 2012
Think Big Mark II
This is what happens when National ministers decide that because they have run a business, they know better than the market and commit huge public funds to their pet projects.
Just watch as Chorus, with the Govt over a barrel, extracts even greater concessions from the Govt in order to connect people (something that was essential and obvious from the start). It won't be cash in the hand, but regulatory changes or a delayed payback - though ultimately we consumers will pay for it.
Minister Joyce should resign over this, but no doubt it will be blamed on CFH, MED, Amy Adams, or anyone else but the Minister whose pet project it was.
Posted by Ben at 23:13:22 on October 8, 2012
Just watch as Chorus, with the Govt over a barrel, extracts even greater concessions from the Govt in order to connect people (something that was essential and obvious from the start). It won't be cash in the hand, but regulatory changes or a delayed payback - though ultimately we consumers will pay for it.
Minister Joyce should resign over this, but no doubt it will be blamed on CFH, MED, Amy Adams, or anyone else but the Minister whose pet project it was.
Posted by Ben at 23:13:22 on October 8, 2012
UFB costs
Chorus is trying to push costs on to the retail customers. TUANZ is right to point this out. Computerworld has pointed it out already: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/chorus-pushing-costs-onto-rsps-telstraclear?Opendocument&HighLight=2,ufb,connection,cost
Posted by Anonymous at 20:10:19 on October 8, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 20:10:19 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
None of this matters. The government has facilitated the ability for anyone to get high speed broadband. That is what is important. They have spent a fraction of what they are pissing away on Social Welfare. When we need it, you will be able to connect. Previously you, and the rest of the country were stuffed.
Posted by Mal at 14:11:21 on October 8, 2012
Posted by Mal at 14:11:21 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
Figures of +$1000 have been bandied about, yes that's thousand, not hundred, to connect from the street to home.
I don't think that's going to get the uptake you want.
This is kind of like saying "Let's build a new motorway but bugger the off ramps."
Posted by Anonymous at 14:21:01 on October 8, 2012
I don't think that's going to get the uptake you want.
This is kind of like saying "Let's build a new motorway but bugger the off ramps."
Posted by Anonymous at 14:21:01 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
"Paul Brislen today siad that the cost of providing ferraris to customers should be met by Ferrari. Any attempts to charge it to customers would put another barrier to the adoption of the super fast cars that people don't really need."
Posted by billy at 9:43:22 on October 8, 2012
Posted by billy at 9:43:22 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
We all know UFG isn't real. How many connections are they up to now, 600?
Posted by Anonymous at 10:32:06 on October 8, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 10:32:06 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
Bah. UFG - UFB. Neither are real.
Posted by Anonymous at 10:32:28 on October 8, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 10:32:28 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
If you're going to be satirical, you could at least spell "said" correctly.
Posted by Anonymous at 9:57:31 on October 8, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 9:57:31 on October 8, 2012
TUANZ
That would be a fair comparison except in this case Ferarri's customers have already put in $1.5 billion to buy the car.
Posted by Patrick at 9:50:59 on October 8, 2012
Posted by Patrick at 9:50:59 on October 8, 2012
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