Dot Kiwi fails to knock out .kiwi.nz
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The possibility of .kiwi and .kiwi.nz is confusing says Dot Kiwi CEO Tim Johnson
By Stephen Bell | Wellington | Monday, 27 August, 2012 | 11 Comments
InternetNZ’s approval of the new domain name .kiwi.nz has provoked an immediate reaction from Tim Johnson, CEO of Dot Kiwi Ltd, which has applied for the top-level domain .kiwi.
The possibility of both .kiwi and .kiwi.nz is confusing and “is not in the best interest of Kiwis, internet users or in fact the internet in New Zealand,” says Johnson.
However, Domain Name Commissioner Debbie Monahan says the Domain Name Commission could not have ruled out .kiwi.nz on the basis of Dot Kiwi’s application to international authority ICANN for .kiwi.
The guidelines for assessing an application for a new second-level domain under .nz require DNC to consider potential confusion with existing second-level domains (2LDs), but there is no process for assessing a local 2LD against an international top-level domain.
Also, Monahan says, .kiwi does not exist yet, and the potential of confusion could not prejudge the question of Dot Kiwi’s application being granted – even though this seems likely, as it is the only applicant for .kiwi.
The creation of .kiwi.nz was first mooted by Donald Clark, former CEO of science network company REANNZ, in April. There was a public consultation round, when Dot Kiwi Ltd and other champions of .kiwi made their views known, says Monahan. “We discussed all aspects of the question and DNC recommended to InternetNZ Council that the domain be created.” Council approved the application at its regular meeting, on August 17.
Under current DNC policy, a new second level domain can be created if it represents “an identifiable, significant, on-going and long-lived community of interest, does not conflict with, duplicate or cause confusion about, any existing second-level domain and is a useful addition to the current DNS (Doman Name System) hierarchy.”
In addition, a candidate second-level domain name should be “an obvious derivative of a word that properly describes the community of interest, e.g. .org.nz for organisation, or a complete word, e.g. .maori.nz.” and should not bring the .nz domain-name space into disrepute.”
InternetNZ President Frank March says “the .kiwi.nz application clearly met these requirements and should be an option for .nz registrants. The InternetNZ council agreed that it met all the policy requirements and so approved it. We congratulate the Domain Name Commission for undertaking an open and transparent consultation process with the community.”
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Kiwi.Me
In the mean time, every one can have someone@kiwi.me and someone.kiwi.me ;)
Posted by Kiwi.Me at 20:57:45 on August 30, 2012
Posted by Kiwi.Me at 20:57:45 on August 30, 2012
Let the people choose
It is unrealistic to expect Internet NZ to not do things to protect and grow its revenue stream from .nz. The profits from its registry operations fund the society's core business.
The introduction of new gTLD's was always going to impact on revenue streams for ccTLDs.
Most people given the choice of a name like fred.kiwi or fred.kiwi.nz will likely choose the first simply because it is shorter.
Interestingly. there is much more to be gained for both registries through co-operation than competition. I am not so sure either party is smart enough to see the opportunity and capitalise on it for the benefit of all New Zealanders.
Posted by Peter Mott at 7:35:05 on August 29, 2012
The introduction of new gTLD's was always going to impact on revenue streams for ccTLDs.
Most people given the choice of a name like fred.kiwi or fred.kiwi.nz will likely choose the first simply because it is shorter.
Interestingly. there is much more to be gained for both registries through co-operation than competition. I am not so sure either party is smart enough to see the opportunity and capitalise on it for the benefit of all New Zealanders.
Posted by Peter Mott at 7:35:05 on August 29, 2012
Dirty.
Pretty dirty of InternetNZ, really. Shortly after a closed meeting of their council talking about how to counter the .kiwi proposal and protect their monopoly, they decide not to apply for .kiwi themselves then lo and behold, purely coincidentally of course, a sitting InternetNZ Councillor proposes .kiwi.nz.
Many other, more solid, 2ld proposals have failed over the years for not meeting the public interest requirements, yet .kiwi.nz is approved in record time - by the same people.
Outwardly, it certainly looks like this "charity" has abused its conflict of interest for commercial gain. It's time New Zealand's domain structure decisions were made independently from the organisation that financially benefits from them.
Posted by Anonymous at 18:56:15 on August 27, 2012
Many other, more solid, 2ld proposals have failed over the years for not meeting the public interest requirements, yet .kiwi.nz is approved in record time - by the same people.
Outwardly, it certainly looks like this "charity" has abused its conflict of interest for commercial gain. It's time New Zealand's domain structure decisions were made independently from the organisation that financially benefits from them.
Posted by Anonymous at 18:56:15 on August 27, 2012
InternetNZ meetings are open
Unlike 'anonymous', InternetNZ Councillors are well known and Council meeting papers and minutes are available for anyone who wants to read them on the InternetNZ Website (the 17 August meeting minutes will be available in a few days). Members of InternetNZ are invited to attend Council meetings. So, not closed, nor anonymous.
Posted by Frank March, President, InternetNZ at 9:56:55 on August 28, 2012
Posted by Frank March, President, InternetNZ at 9:56:55 on August 28, 2012
InternetNZ meetings are open?
C'mon Frank that is simply not true. InternetNZ meeting papers are published sure, but the actual proceedings are either late or remain unpublished or hidden from view. I challenge you to provide a web link to the reported proceedings of 17 Aug.
Good on Donald for spotting an opportunity, but he should resign from the Council immediately. Conflict of interest much?
I too will remain anon thanks because NZ is too small and (like others) I have a public profile to protect. But suffice it to say this move has not gone unnoticed by the ICT industry.
Posted by Unimpressed at 21:13:00 on August 30, 2012
Good on Donald for spotting an opportunity, but he should resign from the Council immediately. Conflict of interest much?
I too will remain anon thanks because NZ is too small and (like others) I have a public profile to protect. But suffice it to say this move has not gone unnoticed by the ICT industry.
Posted by Unimpressed at 21:13:00 on August 30, 2012
InternetNZ meetings are not always open
Are you suggesting the public weren't excluded from the discussion on dot kiwi (the original one, right before you decided to counter it with .kiwi.nz)? Your minutes suggest otherwise. Or is "public excluded" different from "closed"?
Posted by Anonymous at 17:47:29 on August 28, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 17:47:29 on August 28, 2012
InternetNZ meetings are not always open
If Anonymous is serious about this issue, InternetNZ is always open to objections. I would also suggest that Anonymous take a look at the DNC website www.dnc.org.nz for more detail on the very open process for setting up domain names in NZ, including the contentious extension of the .nz 2ld.
Posted by Peter Macaulay at 10:56:42 on August 29, 2012
Posted by Peter Macaulay at 10:56:42 on August 29, 2012
InternetNZ meetings are not always open
If Anonymous is serious about this issue, InternetNZ is always open to objections. I would also suggest that Anonymous take a look at the DNC website www.dnc.org.nz for more detail on the very open process for setting up domain names in NZ, including the contentious extension of the .nz 2ld.
Posted by Peter Macaulay at 10:55:40 on August 29, 2012
Posted by Peter Macaulay at 10:55:40 on August 29, 2012
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