Megaupload criminal copyright case is 'fundamental shift'
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Legal, business and political implications of the Megaupload case examined at NZCS panel discussion
By Michael Foreman | Auckland | Thursday, 15 March, 2012 | 11 Comments
The legal, business and political implications of the Megaupload case were examined at a breakfast panel discussion held by the New Zealand Computer Society in Auckland recently.
The panelists were IT lawyer Rick Shera, InternetNZ CEO Vikram Kumar, and TPP-Watch founder Jane Kelsey.
Shera opened with an observation that the Megaupload extradition proceedings were likely to be “absolutely fascinating” from the legal point of view. The issues were complex but he was glad “New Zealand’s most tech-savvy jurist,” David Harvey, would be presiding over the hearing which is scheduled to take place in August.
In order for the extradition to succeed, Shera said, “there has to an extraditable offence and it has to be serious. Some say the definition of ‘serious’ is a offence that could carry a 12 month prison sentence, others say it’s four years.”
The extraditable offence also had to be “similar or akin to” New Zealand law. While New Zealand did have the Copyright Act, Shera said there were differences between the US and New Zealand legislation, and issues such as knowledge and the obligations of third parties could be significant.
Shera said it showed the struggle by copyright holders to enforce their rights was moving towards ISPs and cloud providers, as film and music companies were discovering that suing users was not best way of achieving their goals.
There had been earlier civil actions against Limewire and Napster, Shera said, but the difference here was that the Megaupload case was a criminal action. This had involved the “nuclear option of taking down websites, seizing assets, shutting down a business even before the accused has a chance to know they are being accused.”
Shera questioned whether due consideration was being shown to third party rights or whether criminal proceedings delivered an appropriate remedy.
“Win or lose, Megaupload is down and the business is probably destroyed.”
Vikram Kumar took up the theme of the novelty of a criminal copyright case, saying it represented a “fundamental shift that we have to start thinking about.”
“We are not used to seeing copyright matters treated in a criminal context,” he said, adding that many people had “reacted emotionally” to the use of armed police in the Dotcom raid.
“What we have here is the arm of the state acting on behalf of people who have alleged they have been wronged.”
Kumar said there had been two categories of reaction to the case so far, the first of which had played out behind the scenes. Some of Megaupload’s competitors had started clearing up their own lockers, and links to copyright infringing files were taken down. Almost immediately much traffic had shifted to other sites.
“Teenagers very quickly adjusted,” Kumar said.
The second type of reaction included businesses examining their risk management regarding the cloud.
In this sense the Megaupload case was “a strong example of what we should have already known,” and reinforced the need to make backups. Other businesses were watching the case as they were “trying to get some clues as to what is good behaviour,” Kumar said.
An example was the implication for ‘safe harbour’ provisions which prevented internet service providers from being liable to the actions of their customers.
Kumar said it was likely the case would impact on laws in the future. “Some people have said the case demonstrates that SOPA/PIPA type legislation is needed, while others say the opposite is true.”
Jane Kelsey outlined the history of the Trans-Pacific Partnership from its origins as a trade agreement between Chile, New Zealand and Singapore, to a much more sweeping agreement which also involves the US, Singapore, Burma, Australia, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam, Peru and possibly Japan.
Kelsey said the TPP “goes further than any previous agreement has gone before,” and aims to “set the gold standard for IP legislation.”
She said New Zealand had become “the collateral damage” in “a bigger gameplan” that had been revealed by Hilary Clinton ‘America’s Pacific Century’ speech to APEC in Honolulu last November.
“This is the economic limb of a policy that seeks to neutralise China,” Kelsey said. “The other one is military.”
Kelsey said the negotiations over IP were being conducted with an obsessive level of secrecy.
Details of the negotiations would not be be released until four years after agreement has been signed, which she said effectively prevented officials from being held accountable.
What little was known about TPP had come out as a result of leaks around the ACTA negotiations, which Kelsey said provided “some idea of what was on the table”. This included globalising existing US laws, extending copyright terms, the “current ask is 90 years,” criminalising small scale copyright infringement, and establishing exclusive rights over imports of copyrighted material.
“Writing laws for the indefinite future behind closed doors is not an acceptable option,” Kelsey said.
She predicted TPP would have a “chilling effect on regulation, locking in place a system that is almost impossible to change.
“I’m not suggesting that is bad or good, but I’d like to see what it is,” Kelsey said.
Comments
Bank safe boxes
Wait for this scenario: Bank Director faces a criminal action for allowing customers to rent bank safes to store stolen money and diamonds. Overnight all BNZ websites were taken down, assets seized, the BNZ was shut down even before the Bank Directors have a chance to know they are being accused. Bad luck for all legal customers; they suddenly can't withdraw money and in six months time after the court case completes the BNZ is bankrupt. Sorry about your savings customers... Story supplied by Anonymous (don't want the FBI knock on my door!)
Posted by Anonymous at 23:46:09 on March 15, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 23:46:09 on March 15, 2012
Bank safe boxes
Best Analogy, well written, well done you get best comment EVER!
Posted by Anonymous at 9:57:32 on March 17, 2012
Posted by Anonymous at 9:57:32 on March 17, 2012
Dot Com Massacre
It is interesting to note that it is the FBI and the record companies leading the charge for evasion of royalty payments and associated crimes against Dot Com and friends. I have never heard mention of ASCAP (who represents the artists in USA,) or for that matter our own APRA, why they are not more active in supporting the pursuit and conviction of this so called "Devil" sucking on the music industry. It proves again that these organizations (ASCAP APRA) will only act properly and when it's convenient for the artists, musicians and authors they supposedly represent.
Posted by Frank May at 18:33:47 on March 15, 2012
Posted by Frank May at 18:33:47 on March 15, 2012
Dot Com Massacre
The reason ASCAP and APRA aren't supporting this action is because generally the artists aren't supporting this action.
This action is to support the big labels, not the artists, streamlining the delivery of art to allow artists to deliver directly to their fans is a brilliant scenario for artists, not so good for large corporations taking their cut.
Posted by Liam at 9:54:47 on March 16, 2012
This action is to support the big labels, not the artists, streamlining the delivery of art to allow artists to deliver directly to their fans is a brilliant scenario for artists, not so good for large corporations taking their cut.
Posted by Liam at 9:54:47 on March 16, 2012
Load of Crock
The entertainment industry has been trying for years to pull similar bully tactics - first by imposing 'costs' on paper when photocopying was a 'threat', and then CD and DVD Media companies for the same thing. Now it's deja vu, just the medium is different - internet and open storage facilities and services.
Any ruling other than 'not guilty' will only show the prosecutors and the companies they 'represent' to be a bunch of corrupt, hypocritical and greedy gits that they are, all with their own personal agendas.
Posted by Anonymous at 13:45:39 on March 15, 2012
Any ruling other than 'not guilty' will only show the prosecutors and the companies they 'represent' to be a bunch of corrupt, hypocritical and greedy gits that they are, all with their own personal agendas.
Posted by Anonymous at 13:45:39 on March 15, 2012
Load of Crock
the correct action for the FBI would be to gather all the user information from Mega's database and then chase all the individuals that DID upload/download copyright content, and in large volumes (they can determine themselves where the cutoff mark is for a violation).
It would not be hard - membership is paid for by credit card, and easily traceable.
Posted by Anonymous at 12:30:45 on March 16, 2012
It would not be hard - membership is paid for by credit card, and easily traceable.
Posted by Anonymous at 12:30:45 on March 16, 2012
What about NZ Post?
Am I missing something really obvious here? It seems to me that if they can prosecute Kim Dotcom then they should also be prosecuting NZ Post who delivered all those mix tapes I created for girlfriends back in the (early) 90's.
Posted by Mark at 10:50:23 on March 15, 2012
Posted by Mark at 10:50:23 on March 15, 2012
What about NZ Post?
SneakerNet (hand-to-hand copying) is STILL the biggest source of media transfer (I refuse to call it piracy). But it's damn near impossible to stop mates/students/workmates/strangers/etc from passing over a USB drive full or media.
Posted by Cameron at 15:45:38 on March 16, 2012
Posted by Cameron at 15:45:38 on March 16, 2012
What about NZ Post?
And music copyright owners such as Sony should insist on prosecuting the companies that made those blank cassette tapes that you used, companies such as .... er.....Sony
Posted by Andy at 12:39:08 on March 15, 2012
Posted by Andy at 12:39:08 on March 15, 2012
What about NZ Post?
Highly anticipated (back in the day) was the court case between Sony Entertainment (the recording company) and Sony Electronics. Sadly, never happened though. But it probably was why Sony brought out their own media format on their digital media players.
Posted by Cameron at 15:48:00 on March 16, 2012
Posted by Cameron at 15:48:00 on March 16, 2012





