Microsoft backpedals from Ballmer's Windows 8 comments
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Statement that new OS will be released next year is premature, Redmond says
By Gregg Keizer | Framingham | Wednesday, 25 May, 2011 | 7 Comments
Microsoft yesterday backed away from comments made by CEO Steve Ballmer, who had told Japanese software developers that the next version of Windows would be dubbed Windows 8, and that it would launch in 2012.
"It appears there was a misstatement," a Microsoft spokesperson said in a statement the company issued Monday afternoon. "We are eagerly awaiting the next generation of Windows 7 hardware that will be available in the coming fiscal year. To date, we have yet to formally announce any timing or naming for the next version of Windows."
According to a transcript of his Monday speech made available by Microsoft, Ballmer said Monday that, "as we look forward to the next generation of Windows systems, which will come out next year, there's a whole lot more coming. As we progress through the year, you ought to expect to hear a lot about Windows 8. Windows 8 slates, tablets, PCs, a variety of different form factors."
Microsoft often keeps a tight lid on its products' names. In 2008, for instance, Microsoft didn't officially label the next edition as "Windows 7" until just weeks before it debuted an early build to developers, even though it had used that moniker for months as a code name.
Nor is this the first time that Microsoft has told everyone not to jump to conclusions about the next Windows. In February 2007, just days after a then-vice president of development refused to reveal the name of what would later become Windows 7, a Microsoft spokesman said the company was "not giving official guidance to the public yet about the next version of Windows, other than that we're working on it."
Most analysts have settled on "Windows 8" as the likely name for the next version of Microsoft's operating system.
Michael Cherry, an analyst with Kirkland, Wash.-based Directions on Microsoft, wondered exactly what part of Ballmer's comments Monday were misstatements.
"Was it the name, Windows 8?" Cherry asked. "Or was it [the release in] 2012? Sometimes this is like being a soothsayer, pulling apart the entrails of animals."
Cherry remains slightly pessimistic about Windows 8's release time, saying today that he's sticking with his earlier predictions that the next operating system will reach customers in late 2012 or early 2013.
A majority of pundits, however, seems convinced that Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the fall of next year, matching the October 2009 appearance of its predecessor, Windows 7.
"I'd love to be proven wrong," Cherry said, "but this will be a major release. And as they move forward to debug and test, they may have to rethink and change things. Some of those may be fixes of a caliber that are so [significant] that testing has to restart."
Cherry pointed out that that is what happened with Windows Vista, the problem- and perception-plagued operating system that Microsoft essentially had to restart after abandoning much of the work it had already done.
Vista, which launched in retail in January 2007, was several years late to market because of the restart.
Clues abound about the pace Microsoft is on with Windows 8, said Cherry, including statements last week by chipmaker Intel, which claimed that the next edition would not run older Windows software on rivals' low-powered processors.
Microsoft quickly reacted to statements made by Renee James, the general manager of Intel's software and services group, calling them "factually inaccurate and unfortunately misleading."
"The fact that Intel made a statement about Windows 8 means that the first set of key OEMs have their hands on code," said Cherry. "That makes sense. You want important OEMs and partners to have the [Windows 8] code, call it an 'alpha,' before PDC so that they can test and build low-level drivers."
PDC, or Professional Developers Conference, is Microsoft's biggest get together for software and hardware developers. Microsoft will hold this year's PDC Sept. 13-16.
Another hint, Cherry said, was the announcement Monday that Steven Sinofsky, the Microsoft executive who heads up the Windows group, will be at the All Things Digital conference that runs May 31 to June 2.
"I think Microsoft will use that to show us that they're making progress on Windows 8," said Cherry. "In January at CES, Microsoft showed a bit of Windows 8, but it was held together with alligator clips and duct tape. Sinofsky will probably demonstrate a more polished package, and show us enough to prove progress."
But even with those tidbits, Cherry said he would wait until PDC, when he expects Microsoft will provide all developers an early version of Windows 8, to make a more precise call on whether the next OS will ship next year.
"At PDC, Microsoft will probably release a beta or preview, then nine to 12 months after that, launch Windows 8," said Cherry. "That puts it in late 2012 or early 2013."
Three years ago, Microsoft gave developers an early build of Windows 7 more than a year before the operating system released to retail.
As a Microsoft observer, Cherry would prefer Microsoft delay the next release of Windows if necessary, rather than rush it to market with flaws.
"If this is going to be a true tablet OS, which runs fast, has low power requirements and all the rest, then Microsoft has to get it right the first time," Cherry said, referring to the anticipated Windows 8 specially designed for tablets. "They're coming to the party late, long after Apple and Google, so they have to come in with a really great product, and can't have any problems or cut features or expectations. They have only one chance."
Cherry advised Microsoft to hold rather than deliver. "As long as you're late to tablets, you might as well be later and get it right than on time and get it wrong," he said.
Comments
Better late than never
One thing we learned over the years is never to write MS off if they set eyes on something. They have been winners and know how to do so. I just went to a seminar where they showed WP7 Mango. It looks impressive. The deal with Nokia can't be taken lightly. Nokia is known for easy to use and reliable hardware, combined with the WP7 OS (with 93% satisfaction rating), it will make inroads into smartphone market.
Watch the space.
Posted by Anonymous at 10:59:01 on May 26, 2011
Watch the space.
Posted by Anonymous at 10:59:01 on May 26, 2011
Windows L8
It is already a case of Windows Late, but Microsoft is pretty good at catching up. Not so good is their track record, with every second major release a dud. Think of Windows 98, Windows Millenium, Windows Vista. I'd be more interested in the following major release: Windows (Cloud) 9, which should follow the trend towards client-in-the-cloud.
Posted by Ron Beernink at 12:30:54 on May 25, 2011
Posted by Ron Beernink at 12:30:54 on May 25, 2011
Windows L8
Interesting assessment that it's already late - Microsoft's long stated aim is to release a version of the OS every 18 months, with releases alternating between client and server. So the client OS was last released in 2009 as Win 7, add 3 years (18 months x 2) and you get 2012. So they're not late, they're still on track...
Posted by Mark Lawrence at 14:59:33 on May 25, 2011
Posted by Mark Lawrence at 14:59:33 on May 25, 2011
too little too late
They've missed the boat on smartphones (they'll drag Nokia down with them), and they've missed tablets. Where do they fit into the picture. For the desktop, they were the low cost, ok-but-not-great alternative to more pricey Macs. In the smartphone and tablet era, Android and Linux already hold that role in the ecosystem. What can MS possibly offer? They can't be sexier than Apple, and they'll never be cheaper or more flexible than Linux. Unless they win some serious patent infingement lawsuits (and their mobile patent portfolio is looking increasingly weak: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110428171114719), they're toast.
Posted by Dave Lane at 11:36:53 on May 25, 2011
Posted by Dave Lane at 11:36:53 on May 25, 2011
too little too late
just because you are not first to market doesnt mean you have missed the boat, did that stop apple making and MP3 player just because Sony etc already had a "role in that ecosystem"?
Posted by Anonymous at 21:16:24 on May 25, 2011
Posted by Anonymous at 21:16:24 on May 25, 2011
too little too late
Er, yes, if you have a compelling offering that people want... It can be done in a way the market wants, e.g. the commoditisation of MP3 players by some vendors, or poorly: do you remember the Zune? Ask a teenager if they do... that, my friend, is an example (one of many) of Microsoft failing completely. They are not going to succeed like they did with the Windows desktop back in the 90s. Everything else they've succeeded with in the past 10 years is directly linked to their desktop monopoly. The closest thing they've had to an un-related success since has been the X-box, but I'm not convinced they've made any money on it yet.
Posted by Dave Lane at 11:45:43 on May 26, 2011
Posted by Dave Lane at 11:45:43 on May 26, 2011
too little too late
Great assessment of the problem facing MS in the mobile space Dave. I have to agree 100%. As a Microsoft dev and something of a gadget geek, prior to the Win. Phone 7 launch, I was looking forward to seeing what MS would offer. Ultimately, however, what I saw was very "pretty" (from a certain point of view) and for me personally, the best developer experience for a mobile OS, but ultimately it was still not enough to sway me away from Android.
I wonder if MS' answer to "where do they fit into the picture" is "a little bit of everywhere"? Seems to me that they're trying hard to build an OS that will fit whatever type of device you want it to - smartphones, tablets, netbooks, pc's....maybe even game consoles? But the real question is whether it will work for them. I suspect it's going to end up being exactly the same as Phone 7 - "oh thats um...nice...but I'm still not going to use it".
MS would probably be infinitely better off just concentrating on their core market, desktops and servers.
Posted by Mark Lawrence at 15:27:37 on May 25, 2011
I wonder if MS' answer to "where do they fit into the picture" is "a little bit of everywhere"? Seems to me that they're trying hard to build an OS that will fit whatever type of device you want it to - smartphones, tablets, netbooks, pc's....maybe even game consoles? But the real question is whether it will work for them. I suspect it's going to end up being exactly the same as Phone 7 - "oh thats um...nice...but I'm still not going to use it".
MS would probably be infinitely better off just concentrating on their core market, desktops and servers.
Posted by Mark Lawrence at 15:27:37 on May 25, 2011
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