Novopay given go ahead despite failure to meet targets
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Memo says Talent 2 refused to man service desk before Christmas
By Stephen Bell | Wellington | Friday, 1 February, 2013 | 27 Comments
The Ministry of Education sent a warning letter to payroll provider Talent2 five months before the Novopay system went live.
The letter, which was sent on April 5 2012, threatened that a “notice of material breach” would be issued on April 18 if Talent2 did not meet systems integration and end-to-end testing deadlines and remedy 10 specific defects. Talent 2 negotiated an extension of that deadline to May 31.
A memo from Education ministry CIO Leanne Gibson on June 5 to the ministers of Finance and Education records that the deadlines, known as Confidence Points 1 and 2 had not been completely met. “All criteria associated with Confidence Point 1 have been met and seven of the eight criteria associated with Confidence Point 2 have been met or are close to being met,” Gibson wrote.
The 147 software defects referred to in our earlier report are also flagged here, with a note that Talent2 “now has a proven way of rectifying defects and releasing the fixes (10 to 20 per week on average)”
Despite these shortcomings, the project was cleared for go-live in August, handling its first pay run in September.
Reasoning in favour of the go-ahead was based on the near completion of the confidence points and on the recommendation of four independent advisors: Justin Sturrock of PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Craig Soutar, CIO of the NZ Transport Authority, David Habershon, CIO of the Ministry of Social Development and Nigel Prince, deputy director-general corporate services at the Ministry of Primary Industries.
On January 15 this year, Acting CEO of the Ministry of Education, Rowena Phair, wrote to Talent2 chairman Andrew Banks, saying she was “appalled” at Talent2’s refusal to staff the Novopay service desk “in the weekend before [ ]tmas” (presumably Christmas; curiously half the word has been redacted.)
This meant, she says, that a large number of staff would not receive their holiday pay before Christmas. A direct call to Talent2 CEO John Rawlinson by Associate Education Minister Craig Foss had been needed to sort out a “solution”.
“I’m sure you will agree this is not an acceptable means of gaining service delivery,” Phair writes.
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History repeats itself...
Too bad they didn't read 'New Zealand Cases in Information Systems' (1992 J.SHEFFIELD, MYERS, M.) , there's a brilliant case study in it which examines the failed implementation of a centralized payroll system by the New Zealand Education Department in early 90s, it has stories of teachers not getting paid on them, missing mortgage payments, bills. It used to be a textbook for first year IS papers in Uni back then. Apparently nothing was learnt.
Posted by Anonymous at 16:00:50 on February 8, 2013
Posted by Anonymous at 16:00:50 on February 8, 2013
History repeats itself...
Probably the most useful post on here... Article can be found at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/09598022/4/4
"The New Zealand Education Department attempted to implement a centralized payroll system in 1989. The difficulties that the department experienced were broadcast on national radio and television and publicised on the front page of The New Zealand Herald. In the end, the centralized payroll system was scrapped by the government.""
Posted by Anonymous at 7:35:46 on February 11, 2013
"The New Zealand Education Department attempted to implement a centralized payroll system in 1989. The difficulties that the department experienced were broadcast on national radio and television and publicised on the front page of The New Zealand Herald. In the end, the centralized payroll system was scrapped by the government.""
Posted by Anonymous at 7:35:46 on February 11, 2013
Why did ComputerWorld remove entire comments?
The old boys club wheels turning again? Transparency and accountability - what a crok.
Posted by Transparency? at 16:57:45 on February 4, 2013
Posted by Transparency? at 16:57:45 on February 4, 2013
Why did ComputerWorld remove entire comments?
yep, I also would like to know what happened to comments from yesterday...
I can understand the need to block some offencive wording.
but at the same time, when a comment / question magicly vanishes we have to start thinking that somebody is doing more editing then is needed.
Posted by Anonymous at 9:19:49 on February 5, 2013
I can understand the need to block some offencive wording.
but at the same time, when a comment / question magicly vanishes we have to start thinking that somebody is doing more editing then is needed.
Posted by Anonymous at 9:19:49 on February 5, 2013
Why did ComputerWorld remove entire comments?
Is it because ComputerWorld are chasing down another twist in this saga, where someone could end up apologising big time to these unfairly defamed CIOs?
Posted by Anonymous at 16:48:39 on February 5, 2013
Posted by Anonymous at 16:48:39 on February 5, 2013
Why did ComputerWorld remove entire comments?
Where there's smoke there's usually fire - especially when the same names keep popping up around town? Sure, let's bury people's views through strong-handed action.
Posted by Anonymous at 17:07:13 on February 5, 2013
Posted by Anonymous at 17:07:13 on February 5, 2013
Why did ComputerWorld remove entire comments?
Just goes to show you there's no independent forum for people to voice their opinions. The old buys club didn't like be called out so those posts had to go - just re-enforces what's wrong with government ICT.
Posted by Independant? Yeah right! at 16:08:58 on February 5, 2013
Posted by Independant? Yeah right! at 16:08:58 on February 5, 2013
Experience in application development
CIOs without a background in application development will not be able to comprehend what is going on in complex systems and instead rely on what they are told and applying sound risk management techniques - if they can.
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Posted by Anonymous at 10:34:00 on February 4, 2013
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Posted by Anonymous at 10:34:00 on February 4, 2013
Experience in application development
And I stipulate even what they are told and read in the risk assessments doesn't get understood or is prey to selective hearing.
That's how such things as Novopay get pushed into production against all odds. But it always takes two to tango so really it's a concerted effort by MoE and Novopay/Talent2.
Posted by Oliver at 16:11:46 on February 4, 2013
That's how such things as Novopay get pushed into production against all odds. But it always takes two to tango so really it's a concerted effort by MoE and Novopay/Talent2.
Posted by Oliver at 16:11:46 on February 4, 2013
Lot's of failures costing millions do not get reported?
Novopay has caught the headlines, but there are many other government IT failures that have cost significant sums (millions) and have been kept quiet?
Posted by Anonymous at 9:31:37 on February 3, 2013
Posted by Anonymous at 9:31:37 on February 3, 2013
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