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Commerce Select Committee tips its hat to open source submissions
By Stephen Bell | Wellington | Wednesday, 31 March, 2010 | 17 Comments
Open source software champions have been influential in excluding software from the scope of patents in the new Patents Bill.
Clause 15 of the draft Bill, as reported back from the Commerce Select Committee, lists a number of classes of invention which should not be patentable and includes the sub-clause “a computer program is not a patentable invention.”
“We received many submissions concerning the patentability of computer programs,” says the committee in the preamble to the Bill. “Under the Patents Act 1953, computer programs can be patented in New Zealand, provided they produce a commercially useful effect.
“Open source, or free, software has grown in popularity since the 1980s. Protecting software by patenting it is inconsistent with the open source model and its proponents oppose it. A number of submitters argue that there is no ‘inventive step’ in software development, as ‘new’ software inevitably builds on existing software.”
Software can still be protected by copyright and by the terms of its licence.
A requirement for a genuine “inventive step” — a development that would not be obvious to a person skilled in the appropriate field — is a feature of the Patents Bill, which in general imposes tighter requirements than the existing Act before a patent can be obtained.
“[Some submitters] felt that computer software should be excluded from patent protection as software patents can stifle innovation and competition, and can be granted for trivial or existing techniques. In general we accept this position,” the committee says.
It admits that there was some doubt over embedded software, which forms an integral part of a machine. It sought ways of making a distinction between embedded and other software and decided drawing a “clear and definitive” line would be too difficult.
In addition, “we received advice that our recommendation…would be unlikely to prevent the granting of patents for inventions involving embedded software,” the committee says.
NZ Open Source Society president Don Christie applauds the move in his blog Pass the Source.
“New Zealand MPs of all parties are to be congratulated on recognising what to many, for many years, has been patently obvious,” he writes. “There are some members of that committee that paid particular attention to the detail of the debate; there were also lots of submissions made by patent lawyers in favour of patents.
“These MPs weighed up the arguments and came down against software patents. This is ground-breaking and visionary. I congratulate our law makers today.
“To all who took the time and effort to write submissions and who took the unique step of coming to Wellington and backing up those submissions orally…congratulations.”
Reaction to the change among a broader range of developers at a Computer Society meeting in Wellington last night was also positive.
Christie and other supporters acknowledge the battle is not won yet. The Bill now goes back to the full Parliament for its second reading.
It has also been divided into two parts; the sections concerning registration of patent attorneys have been extracted into a separate Bill, which will be delayed, because of the need to co-ordinate these provisions with Australian law.
Comments
Applaud NZ's approach
While I agree with some of the comments of the previous poster ("patents do not necessarily limit innovation), I do not agree with expanding the concept to software - or other areas where patent law has barred the use of patent protection. If you have been following the news stories in the US, lives and people's health, not innovation, have been put at risk due to the granting of patents on basic genes or DNA components. Potential licensees would like to see patents extended to everything, but that is just the easy way out of truly competing in a free market.
I would also comment that I do not subscribe to the notion that technology move so fast that 'innovation' becomes commonplace before a relevant patent is granted. If you actually dig into the history of much of this innovation, it is *usually* based on "prior art" in legalese terms, or something that shouldn't be patented based on existing patent law. Where technology has moved quickly, along with government patent offices, is in granting patents long before the courts (and case law) catches up and establishes clear guidelines. Here in the US, with software patents, the number of companies trying to patent 'algorithms' first discovered by the ancient Greeks is overwhelming (not to mention anything close to an 'algorithm' described since that time).
Patents were invented not to stifle innovation, but to promote it. By providing a time-limited protection to inventors, they no longer needed to keep everything secret. They could publicly disclose their invention, get protection from others capitalizing on their hard work, license the technology and benefit from their effort. In return for this protection, the inventor agreed to give up that protection after a certain amount of time and allow everyone to benefit from this invention (the "public good" aspect of government intervention in this area). Further, you could only patent processes: you cannot patent the light bulb, but you can patent the process for making a specific light bulb, etc.
Whether software, in specific instances, delineates specific processes is arguable. However, the literally billions of lines of code written to date, in reality, means that no one can definitely prove that a particular method for accomplishing a task in software is either unique or non-obvious. Imagine trying to patent a particular way of using a pen. The rest of the software patents really describe UI, which courts have viewed as having only limited protection even under copyright law.
I support this committee's view of software patents, and hope that the US finally gets it together and joins the rest of the world is throwing out this unwelcome expansion of patent law semantics. It is not so much that software patents stifle innovation; it is that software patents have no basis in either law nor actual software development.
Posted by Anonymous at 6:51:40 on April 10, 2010
I would also comment that I do not subscribe to the notion that technology move so fast that 'innovation' becomes commonplace before a relevant patent is granted. If you actually dig into the history of much of this innovation, it is *usually* based on "prior art" in legalese terms, or something that shouldn't be patented based on existing patent law. Where technology has moved quickly, along with government patent offices, is in granting patents long before the courts (and case law) catches up and establishes clear guidelines. Here in the US, with software patents, the number of companies trying to patent 'algorithms' first discovered by the ancient Greeks is overwhelming (not to mention anything close to an 'algorithm' described since that time).
Patents were invented not to stifle innovation, but to promote it. By providing a time-limited protection to inventors, they no longer needed to keep everything secret. They could publicly disclose their invention, get protection from others capitalizing on their hard work, license the technology and benefit from their effort. In return for this protection, the inventor agreed to give up that protection after a certain amount of time and allow everyone to benefit from this invention (the "public good" aspect of government intervention in this area). Further, you could only patent processes: you cannot patent the light bulb, but you can patent the process for making a specific light bulb, etc.
Whether software, in specific instances, delineates specific processes is arguable. However, the literally billions of lines of code written to date, in reality, means that no one can definitely prove that a particular method for accomplishing a task in software is either unique or non-obvious. Imagine trying to patent a particular way of using a pen. The rest of the software patents really describe UI, which courts have viewed as having only limited protection even under copyright law.
I support this committee's view of software patents, and hope that the US finally gets it together and joins the rest of the world is throwing out this unwelcome expansion of patent law semantics. It is not so much that software patents stifle innovation; it is that software patents have no basis in either law nor actual software development.
Posted by Anonymous at 6:51:40 on April 10, 2010
The patent difference between software and other technologies
The big difference between software and other technologies is that it consists of extremely many ideas, and almost none of these has any significant development cost that needs to be recovered.
I can see the necessity of patents in industries where you need to invest millions of dollars to create new ideas, which could then easily copied by other companies. or instance if medical drugs could not get patents, nobody might go through the immensely expensive processes of finding new ones.
In software, however, it is a rare exception that generating a single innovative idea here is very expensive, so patents are not necessary to ensure innovation. Its value lies in the well executed composition of elements, which is not patentable, anyway - the appropriate way to protect software investments are copyright laws.
So the primary business case for software patents is to go after competitors, which is not good for competition and a serious latent threat to innovative small businesses who do not have the ressources to check for every small detail whether someone snatched a patent one needs to work around.
Posted by Hans-Peter St#rr at 18:12:35 on April 7, 2010
I can see the necessity of patents in industries where you need to invest millions of dollars to create new ideas, which could then easily copied by other companies. or instance if medical drugs could not get patents, nobody might go through the immensely expensive processes of finding new ones.
In software, however, it is a rare exception that generating a single innovative idea here is very expensive, so patents are not necessary to ensure innovation. Its value lies in the well executed composition of elements, which is not patentable, anyway - the appropriate way to protect software investments are copyright laws.
So the primary business case for software patents is to go after competitors, which is not good for competition and a serious latent threat to innovative small businesses who do not have the ressources to check for every small detail whether someone snatched a patent one needs to work around.
Posted by Hans-Peter St#rr at 18:12:35 on April 7, 2010
And another one joins the party
Last I checked there were no software patents in the EU. Or atleast in quite a few countries. Each time lobbyist tried pushing through software patents in the EU it was struck down. As a side effect the EPO also has no mandate in the EU and all those patents are a lot of hot air.
I know that here in Slovenia swpats are not recognised as valid.
Posted by Anonymous at 1:36:47 on April 2, 2010
I know that here in Slovenia swpats are not recognised as valid.
Posted by Anonymous at 1:36:47 on April 2, 2010
Patents
I objected to a Microsoft patent, on the grounds that I had done this work years before the patent was granted by NZ Patent Office. When it was pointed out by the NZ Patent Office that on appeal I could be forced to pay all legal costs if my objection failed I stopped. My own, limited, money was no contest if all Microsoft's resources were against me.
The patent in question was the XML format for documents.
Posted by Michael Seadon at 21:23:25 on April 1, 2010
The patent in question was the XML format for documents.
Posted by Michael Seadon at 21:23:25 on April 1, 2010
Can NZ patent it?
What... you ask?
An intelligent committee of politicians... This has to be a first.
Posted by Anonymous at 18:52:03 on April 1, 2010
An intelligent committee of politicians... This has to be a first.
Posted by Anonymous at 18:52:03 on April 1, 2010
Is software not technology?
The TRIPS agreement requires all fields of technology to be protected by patent. Does this mean the committee felt software is not technology, i.e. it is part of the fine arts not useful arts? Copyright protects only expression. Do software developers only care about how the code is expressed? Software functions can be performed by hardware. Why distinguish between the two?
Posted by David at 17:27:37 on April 1, 2010
Posted by David at 17:27:37 on April 1, 2010
Re: Is software not technology?
Software is already covered by copyright. Why should it be the only field of human endeavour that gets TWO forms of legal protection, both patent and copyright? When other technological products don't get to double-dip the legal system in this way?
Posted by Lawrence D'Oliveiro at 0:25:16 on April 3, 2010
Posted by Lawrence D'Oliveiro at 0:25:16 on April 3, 2010
Good!
As a software engineer, I applaud this decision. There are plenty of cases in the US where patents have prevented software being developed or competition being applied in the market. Software implements algorithms, algorithms are clearly ideas and ideas are supposed to be non-patentable.
As Donald Knuth - one of Computer Science's founding fathers said - if software patents had been around when he was producing software, much of what he made would have been illegal.
"Open source may be all over the place today, but what about *developing* stuff like video codecs? I highly doubt the open source model could make fundamental advances like that in the wild."
- oh, so Theora doesn't exist eh? Open source HAS developed video codecs.
Case in point of patents screwing innovation: the in-development HTML 5 standard is in stasis due to the inability to decide on the provision of a video codec BECAUSE OF PATENTS:
"Patent encumbrance is one of the driving forces behind the HTML 5 video codec controversy. The patent licensing requirements mean that H.264 codecs can't be freely redistributed, making the format a non-starter for Mozilla and most other open source browser vendors. Opera also objects, saying that the licensing fees are too high. Mozilla and Opera strongly advocate Ogg Theora as an alternative because its freedom from known patents could ensure that there are no licensing barriers that prevent ubiquitous adoption.
Apple objects to Ogg Theora, claiming that the lack of known patents on Theora doesn't rule out the threat of submarine patents that could eventually be used against adopters"
I notice that most of the pro-patent comments here are woefully unaware of the actual state of affairs regarding patents and how they are actually applied to software in the real world.
Posted by Peter Ashford at 13:11:56 on April 1, 2010
As Donald Knuth - one of Computer Science's founding fathers said - if software patents had been around when he was producing software, much of what he made would have been illegal.
"Open source may be all over the place today, but what about *developing* stuff like video codecs? I highly doubt the open source model could make fundamental advances like that in the wild."
- oh, so Theora doesn't exist eh? Open source HAS developed video codecs.
Case in point of patents screwing innovation: the in-development HTML 5 standard is in stasis due to the inability to decide on the provision of a video codec BECAUSE OF PATENTS:
"Patent encumbrance is one of the driving forces behind the HTML 5 video codec controversy. The patent licensing requirements mean that H.264 codecs can't be freely redistributed, making the format a non-starter for Mozilla and most other open source browser vendors. Opera also objects, saying that the licensing fees are too high. Mozilla and Opera strongly advocate Ogg Theora as an alternative because its freedom from known patents could ensure that there are no licensing barriers that prevent ubiquitous adoption.
Apple objects to Ogg Theora, claiming that the lack of known patents on Theora doesn't rule out the threat of submarine patents that could eventually be used against adopters"
I notice that most of the pro-patent comments here are woefully unaware of the actual state of affairs regarding patents and how they are actually applied to software in the real world.
Posted by Peter Ashford at 13:11:56 on April 1, 2010
Good!
Donald Knuth also said that computer software is nothing more than mathmatics which has never been patentable.
Read his open letter to the US patent office (http://progfree.org/Patents/knuth-to-pto.txt)
Posted by Andrew at 15:04:28 on April 1, 2010
Read his open letter to the US patent office (http://progfree.org/Patents/knuth-to-pto.txt)
Posted by Andrew at 15:04:28 on April 1, 2010
Existing patents?
Does any legal eagle know what the impact of this will be on existing patents? Will they be defused in New Zealand or will they remain and simply no new software patents be issued?
Posted by Andrew at 5:51:59 on April 3, 2010
Posted by Andrew at 5:51:59 on April 3, 2010
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