US digs in over Dotcom evidence

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US govt continues fight to keep full evidence away from Dotcom

The United States Government is continuing to fight against having to show internet millionaire Kim Dotcom the evidence it has against him on copyright and racketeering charges.

Speaking after a Court of Appeal hearing at Wellington yesterday, Dotcom said the case was malicious and part of the US Government trying to defend an outdated business model.

His words echoed what his lawyer had told the three judges in court. Paul Davison, QC, said the allegations depended on an interpretation of how the Megaupload internet site was used for people to access movies, games and music, and whether that was part of the intended service or incidental to providing a “cyberlocker”.

After the hearing, Dotcom said he thought he had complied with the law and wondered why a company such as YouTube had not been targeted.

A new Mega site could be expected after the case, but not like the old one, he said.

Yesterday's hearing was about a part of the extradition law so far not tested in any other New Zealand case. Dotcom said he wished he was not pioneering it.

"It was an interesting hearing and we have to see what the judges decide." The Court of Appeal reserved its decision.

The lawyer for the US, John Pike, told the court it was alleged that Dotcom and his co-defendants had stolen intellectual property such as movies and music on a vast scale. A US grand jury had decided there should be breach of copyright, racketeering and other charges.

When an application was made to extradite Dotcom and associates Finn Batato, Mathias Ortmann, and Bram Van Der Kolk, the four men asked to see the evidence backing up the allegations, and two courts have now upheld their request, but on more limited terms than they had wanted.

Mr Pike said it would still amount to millions of documents, but the US says it should not have to go through the exercise because there was no power to order disclosure of the documents.

Instead, the US has elected to use a streamlined extradition process in which it files a “record of the case” summary which is presumed to be reliable, Mr Pike said. If the District Court judge at the extradition hearing thought the record was inadequate the government could be asked to add to the record.

The record of the case is suppressed. The extradition hearing is expected to take place in March.

Mr Pike said ordering the US to disclose its documents was inconsistent with the obligations in the extradition treaty it has with New Zealand.

But Mr Davison said the extradition process was supposed to be like committing an accused for trial. The person being accused had the right to see the evidence and to challenge the inferences being drawn from it.

The US would not even give Dotcom copies of his own computer data seized in a police raid on his property in January.

Without the information the extradition hearing would go ahead with one side having its “hands tied behind his back”, Mr Davison said.

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Doesn't matter I hear US Navy Seals are already modifying their stealth choppers to be able to handle extra load that Dotcom is. If he doesn't get extradited, they'll just swoop in and grab him anyway.
Posted by Anonymous at 18:50:11 on September 24, 2012

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And you've all read the indictment ? It would surprise me if any of you had read the indictment document that is public record on this.

But that wouldn't matter would it, becuase you're all such fanboys.
Posted by Anonymous at 11:35:48 on September 24, 2012

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evidence Is there any evidence at all?
Posted by Mark at 8:07:04 on September 24, 2012

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unsurprizing Of course they are digging their heels in they have nothing to show and they want to keep that fact from coming to proof positive light as long as possible.
Posted by Anonymous at 16:23:20 on September 22, 2012

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conspiracy theory America take note, NZ doesnt respond well to strong arm tactics. American 'arrogance" doesnt go down well here amongst most people. Unfortunetly, the current nz govt is corrupt as it desperetly wants favours/ acceptance again from Americas military. and they know it. i see a secret back door deal going on for mr dotcoms extradition one way or the other just so NZ can play wargames with big brother again. (unfortunatly).
Posted by jonno at 14:20:52 on September 22, 2012

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Extradition ""Mr Pike said. If the District Court judge at the extradition hearing thought the record was inadequate the government could be asked to add to the record.""

If this were to happen then the US will deffinately appeal and the extradition hearing will be put back say another 6 months to September 2013 to allow time to appeal etc. The US are doing everything possible to stall this for as long as they can in order to starve Kim and accused from money in order to pay for defence.
Posted by Corby at 23:58:45 on September 21, 2012

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Extradition ""Mr Pike said. If the District Court judge at the extradition hearing thought the record was inadequate the government could be asked to add to the record.""

If this were to happen then the US will deffinately appeal and the extradition hearing will be put back say another 6 months to September 2013 to allow time to appeal etc. The US are doing everything possible to stall this for as long as they can in order to starve Kim and accused from money in order to pay for defence.
Posted by Corby at 23:58:43 on September 21, 2012

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Extradition Mr Pike works for the Crown Law Office which exists as New Zealand's lawyers and must only push New Zealand's interpretation of an agreement. If he thinks he is so much smarter than the Chief High Court Judge and Judge David Harvey, then why is it that he didn't replace David Collins? Mr Prabhu should have been here to represent his position. Dotcom's lawyer came from the States to watch
Posted by Dennis at 8:03:31 on September 22, 2012

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welp.. Why? Kim personally shouldn't be held accountable look at all these torrent sites, null script sites and all that. shouldn't they get shut down? oh wait its a money thing aint it?
Posted by Andrew at 22:24:59 on September 21, 2012

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WMD Of course they have evidence. It was put together by the same guys who said IRAQ had WMDs... Whooops!
Posted by Anonymous at 19:02:17 on September 21, 2012

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